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Design/layout PCB board to allow D I/O to drive 250v ACrelay

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  • Project ID:

    781691
  • Project Type:

    Fixed
  • Budget:

    $250-$750 USD

Project Description:

I require a circuit and layout of PCB to allow 24 channel TTL Digital I/O from an embedded SBC to drive 250v power relay which can be situated up to 20m away. (Relay specs can be found at the following website: http://www.scr.com.tw/ssr-series_01.htm ). As the TTl Digital I/O does not produce enough current/voltage to drive the 250v SSR directly, the PCB also needs to provide some level of isolation between the 250v SSR and the TTL Digital I/O. A 12v regulated DC power input is available via an external power brick (DC Jet), the Digital I/Os will be connected via 25-pin parallel cable from the SBC.

Skills required:

Electronics, PCB Layout

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synrax Australia
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6 messages

  • prmurthyin

    The SSR can be moved towards SBC instead of doing all these things.
    Thanks

    over 1 year ago

  • TopGunPk

    Just one more thing Synrax.

    1) The TTL outputs, are they Logic-High or Logic-low ? Meanig, when you want to activate an SSR / Relay, do you pull the ttl line low or high ?

    2) the 25-pin cable connector you mention, is that an IDC connector Or a 25-pin D-SUB (like old RS-232C port) conector ? Can you give me a pin-out of the connector as to which pin has what signal ?

    I'll bid when you answer these questions. The PCB Layout will be done in EasyPCB, so i can send you the EasyPCB files as well as PDFs or Gerber.

    over 1 year ago

  • TopGunPk

    Noted Synrax.

    over 1 year ago

  • synrax

    Just to clarify, length of 20m will be from the board to be designed to the SSR. It will not be TTL signal. The TTL signal will be from the SBC to the "board to be designed" and this will be at maximum 30cm.

    The aim is to design a board to amplify and isolate the TTL Digital I/O from an SBC and drive SSRs located in different locations which could be up to 20m away.

    over 1 year ago

  • jsidev

    As my colleague TopGunPk noted, the solution parallel ribon-cable is not feasible. You will have a lot of subsequent problems. In such systems are used one master-multiple slaves RS485 half/full duplex serial communications. This topology use 4wire communication with multiple nodes and is best suited to galvanic isolation. Your SSRs become addressable and intelligent. You can fit in the proposed budget.

    over 1 year ago

  • TopGunPk

    Hello.

    20 meters of parallel ribon-cable to carry TTL signals is an overkill, worst what if multiple relays are to be switched ON and OFF, the high impedance and capacitance might be too much for your SBC.

    I can suggest annother solution !

    You will only need 4 TTL output lines on your SBC. These will be connected to a RS-485 line level shifter, producing 4 pairs of differntial signals (8 lines).

    These RS-485 lines can be taken upto 1Km (or approx. 4000 feet).

    These will terminate on the Relay board where a complimentary RS-485-to-TTL converter will translate them back into 4 TTL signals. These signals will drive a serial-in/parallel-out shift register-cum-latch.

    The output from these latches will be fed to the relay via opto-couplers / line drivers that can handle teh 12V relay coil switching voltage.


    I know this will add complexity to the circuit (and a little bit complexity to teh code on your SBC to shift out 24 bits serially), but the saving on wires and safety is huge.

    Compare 24 wires travellig 20 meters to just 8 wires that can go upto 1000 meters. Also, rS-485 is excellent in noise rejection from Back-EMF, switching and RFI noise.

    Moreover, you could daisy-chain such boards to add more relay outputs in future, with no hardware changing.

    Let me know if you would like this solution, so we can discus further before i bid. See the attached Access Database for info.

    Kind Regards...
    Zeeshan A. Noorwala
    Automation Engineering Solutions

    Attachment: DB1.MDB

    over 1 year ago


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